Test drove enough to know smg was not a selling point. This thread will probably devolve into yet another smg vs manual argument, but i would agree with the premise of the video. Would the dct make the m3 harder to tune in any way. Its actually the same manual gearbox that is found in the cars with a clutch pedal, but instead of having the clutch. Which is better, a bmw e34 manual transmission or an automatic transmission. The m3 manual transmission has a cooler that requires the bmw computer to cycle onoff to completely extract old fluid and take in new fluid. Jun 21, 2020 the most obvious reason why the e92 m3, particularly those with the sixspeed manual, is bound to increase in value comes down to the 4. Smg and manual both have their foibles, but i dont think id consider changing one for the other, unless your smg pump is faulty then consider converting the car to manual possibly. As an owner of an smg ii car e46 m3 i found it something i had to learn, but manual mode was acceptable. I am ready to order le mans blue m3 coupe with 6mt. It is common knowledge that one of the physical differences between the smg and manual transmissions is the. If i can be bold enough to try and synopsize what will be said in this thread if it grows to 100 posts like most of them do. The e90 e92 e93generation m3 is now looking like a great used purchase, so check through our eightpoint buyers guide before you start your.
Smg fully preserves the performance of a manual transmission, entails little or no penalty in fuel economy, and. Nov 03, 2011 hi there, im looking at getting a m3 e46 but im in two minds about going for a smg gear box over a manual, are the smg boxes reliable or always having faults and going wronfg m im assuming there s to repair any advice is welcome. Although the name smg was an abbreviation of sequential manual gearbox, the transmission internal were as per a typical synchromeshequipped manual transmission, not a true sequential manual transmission. There are cases of rod bearing failure and premature rod bearing wear, but for the most part the s65 is very strong. Or say you were at a busy junction and wanted to get out and up to speed quickly, in the manual you might build some revs and then quickly engage the clutch. If you are a super enthusiast and want the top of the line 3 series, and money is not an option the go for the 335is. Getting the books smg vs manual m3 now is not type of challenging means. I plan to change it often enough that i can change it just like any other bmw 6 speed and not worry about the small amount of residual fluid in the. You can view their inventory, including the listing to this m3, at. This is a great sum up for me and ive had a manual e92 m3 and a stronic audi tts, the.
I heard the 6 spd is faster which seems untrue since the smg switches through the gears faster than most or all people can. The hydraulic pump often fails resulting in a costly repair. Jun 20, 2008 the doubleclutch arrangement also enables quicker and smoother shifting than in singleclutch automated manuals, such as bmws own sequential manual gearbox smg found in the previous m3 and. Bmws final amt before being replaced by a dualclutch. The e92 has been one of the most reliable m cars yet. I may have traded a manual e92 m3 for smg e60 m5, and i dont. I decided to compare my m3 e46 smg against my good friends heavily modified manual.
Feb 23, 2020 e92 m3 coupe 14,766 manual versus 25,326 m dct. The 7 speed dct will shift faster than your manual human hand shifts. Smg transmission manual transmission the portion well be adding to the smg bellhousing is the centering assembly. M3 e46 smgii stock vs m3 e92 manual stock acceleration. Feb 27, 2016 the e46 m3 had a couple major issues, one of the lesser ones is the smg gearbox. In 2008, a fourdoor e90, sixspeed manual transmission m3 accelerated to 60 mph 97 kmh in 4. I plan to change it often enough that i can change it just like any other bmw 6 speed and not worry about the small amount of residual fluid in the coolerpump and will be able to exclude the step i can. The e93 hardtop convertible version joined the m3 lineup shortly after the e92 s launch, and is based directly on the m3 coupe. Sep, 2019 the difference is that the smg has an ecu and hydraulic pump to move the gear selector, whereas the manual has a clutch and gear lever. Hi iam posting this thread to get other peoples opinions on what is the better option for the new m3 and why. I moved to the csl after having a manual e46 m3 and my main concern with buying the csl.
E92 bmw m3 dct vs manual which is more fun to drive. This is what provides the spring function as you move your shift lever from sidetoside laterally. Bmws greatest m car bmw m3 csl with manual gearbox. I got to test drive an smg equipped m3 the other day.
Shift time in a manual gearbox is dependent on the driver, but in automatic or automated. Most do a smg to manual conversion to save on cost and improve reliability. The smg was replaced by the smg ii when the e46 m3 was introduced in 2000. E46 m3 smg to manual conversion lang racing development. Bmw e92 m3 with manual gearbox could become a future. Mar 03, 2021 rated at a stout 240 horsepower versus the m3 s 192, the six shooter provided notably stronger acceleration and passing power. Bmw m3 e36 vs e46 vs e92 vs f80 ultimate comparison. Dct is super smooth in manual mode and very acceptable in d or the auto mode.
I may have traded a manual e92 m3 for smg e60 m5, and i. Every magazine ive seen this tested in had signifigantly slower times with the smg than with the 6 speed. E92 m3 bolt on, gintani tuned full e85, weight reduction vs my good friends fbo 335i n54 pure stage 1 turbos. M3 e46 smgii stock vs m3 e92 manual stock acceleration battle. Although it can take quite a long time, i would recommend making an effort to find a factory manual transmission bellhousing. How to own a bmw e46 m3 with a proper manual for next to. Where the focus of the e30 and e36 was more about handling than speed, it was the engines in the e46 and e92 an inlinesix and v8 respectively, and the unashamed focus on performance, that made these models a clear and distinct step forward. Bmw e46 smg vs manual one being the smg automated manual with paddle shifters, which is to be avoided like e92 335i e46 m3 120x120 bmw e92 335i vs e46 m3 from 0 to. It makes a massive difference to the way an smg car drives, id definitely try it before id consider changing for a manual. The m3 convert also weighs about 300 pounds more than the coupe also.
Hi there, im looking at getting a m3 e46 but im in two minds about going for a smg gear box over a manual, are the smg boxes reliable or always having faults and going wronfg m im assuming there s to repair any advice is welcome. Is it worth upgrading from e46 m3 to e92 m3 page 1 m. E92 m3 gintani tuned full e85, afe intake, catless. Specifically, the smg bellhousing is missing the spring and detents that give the self centering function to the manual version. On the smg, when it shifts, you definitely feel the traditional clutch being disengaged and then. Todays video is all about the e909293 bmw m3, and the. I wanted to get opinions on the smg vs the manual 6 spd. Comprehensive smg to manual conversion bmw m3 forum. Smg is slow and crappy and the dct is fast and nice. Huge thanks to streetxtreme for providing this m3 for todays video. You can view their inventory, including the listing to this m3.
Feb 26, 2012 smg vs manual hi there, im looking at getting a m3 e46 but im in two minds about going for a smg gear box over a manual, are the smg boxes reliable or always having faults and going wronfg m im assuming there s to repair. I just joined this forum a few days ago and am shopping for an e60 m5. From having had a e92 m3 and driven a e46 m3 i would say the e92 m3 is very grown. Identical except for color, trim, and rear sunshade. Drove a toyota gt86, great brakes, good handling, brilliant gearbox but asthmatic and anaemic. The chart below shows e36 e46 e90 e91 e92 e93 e85 e86 e83 e82 e88 transmission gear ratios. How to own a bmw e46 m3 with a proper manual for next to nothing. I currently have a 08 e90 that has gone lemon due to the fuel pump, and other. Discussion in e90e92e93 m3 200820 started by bharatmd, apr 30, 2009. Bmw e92 3 series coupe m3 technical specs, dimensions. Shift time refers to the time interval between gear changes in a transmission. Transmissions choices were a fivespeed manual or a fivespeed automatic. It is the third and fourth generations of m3 that are most interesting the e46 and the e92, spanning the entire noughties up to 20. In order to prepare an smg transmission to be used as a 6mt, these holes must be machined and the associated hardware added.
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